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Betty NGUYEN, cnn anchor: Let's take a look at "what's happening now" in the news ".
"Split AmericaS.
The Supreme Court ruled differently on the display of the Ten Commandments.
Judge ruled 5-
Two court exhibits in Kentucky crossed the line between the church and the state.
But in a case in Texas, they thought it was OK to show it in the state capital.
Jeffrey Tobin, our senior legal analyst, will discuss the ruling with us in a minute.
But at the same time, the suspects arrested in the infamous murder of BTK admitted 10 counts of murder.
Dennis Reid waived his right to stand trial and appeared in Wichita, Kansas, an hour ago.
Now, the murders between 1974 and 1991 have left the Wichita region in terror.
We will have a live report in the Court ahead.
In addition, President Bush met with German Prime Minister Schroeder at the White House this hour.
The meeting will be held next month ahead of the G8 summit in Scotland. Mr.
Earlier this year, Bush and Chancellor Schroeder met to announce their controversy in the history of the war in Iraq.
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Good morning. Welcome to CNN today.
This is a busy year.
It's 8:00 a. m. in California; 11:00 a. m.
Atlanta, Georgiaand 7:00 p. m. in Baghdad.
I'm Betty Nguyen from the CNN news center in Atlanta, reporting today for Darin Kagan.
First of all, high court, high drama.
The Supreme Court will conclude its 2005 term today, and the judges, as usual, have preserved two blockbuster cases for a complete success.
However, the real cliffhanger may not have arrived yet.
Will the judge retire?
We haven't heard it just now.
Let's start this hour with Kimberly Osias at the Supreme Court.
Kimberly, let's start with the Ten Commandments and slowly complete these decisions.
Kimberly Osias, cnn correspondent: Betty, we're all screening them right now.
The court appeared to have sneered at the two cases, one from Kentucky and one from Texas.
Where is one of Texas? -
Well, these two Ten Commandments are really places to show.
Outside in Texas.
Now, the chief justice Renquist has made that comment and made it at the bench.
Of course, he is a staunch supporter of religious freedom and religious rights.
In fact, it is very appropriate for him to write this view.
A very urgent decision, a 5-
4 The decision, basically, is that a large granite monument can be left in front of the Texas Capitol with a large font engraved with "I am the Lord your God. Now, in --
It seems that in contrast to this, a related case, the case of Kentucky, ruled down 5-
Moon is favored by the American Civil Liberties Union.
Judge sout, write this opinion.
Judge O'Connor cast a swing vote.
Basically, even if the Ten Commandments are shown together with other more secular documents, the court does not allow the Ten Commandments ---Betty.
Hey: Okay.
Next is the file sharing case.
How is the result?
Osias: the entertainment industry has won a huge victory for MGM. Basically 9-
0. There is consensus here.
The judges made it clear that Internet documents cannot be exchanged, and of course copyright-protected materials and music should be protected.
This is definitely an area where judges tipto enter with their toes, some of them in their 50 s, 60 s and 70 s, a little behind the technology.
NGUYEN: Another case handled by the Supreme Court today, specifically involving journalists and two journalists, as well as refusing to admit it to their sources.
How did that come out?
Osias: they can't hear it. -
They ruled that they would not hear the case.
So it will go--
Go back to the lower court to decide what will happen.
Of course, the two journalists who protect their sources are very, very important to all of us in this regard, and they have the right to do so.
The New York Times said in a statement that they were very disappointed with the CIA agent Valerie pram's decision to leak the information, which the two journalists will not release, although the grand jury is investigating-Betty.
NGUYEN: CNN's Kimberly Osias introduced us to all the decisions made today.
Thank you very much, Kimberly.
We would like to remind everyone that we are still waiting for the judge to announce his retirement today.
The news was not announced today.
We don't know if it will be made.
But the court is closed.
They are having a meeting now.
If it is to be announced, we know that it will usually be announced at these meetings.
So we just stood by and waited.
Once we know, we will bring you the latest.
We would now like to ask Jeffrey Tobin, our legal analyst, to talk about all these decisions.
Jeffrey did a lot today.
I think the one that a lot of people are concerned about ---
All of them--
But especially the Ten Commandments.
It's a split decision.
I think some people may see this and still have a bit of confusion about the position of the court.
Jeffrey Tobin, CNN correspondent
Legal analyst: Well, I think the court is a bit confused about its position.
I mean, it's an area they 've been trying to solve for decades, religious expression in public, whether it's a Christmas nursery or a cross, whether it's a prayer for a football match.
These decisions appear over and over again.
To be frank, the courts are all over the map.
This has never been better stated than it is today, where the Texas show is approved and the Kentucky show is rejected.
Frankly, you know, the difference between the two seems to be smaller than the similarities between the two.
But Judge O'Connor thinks it's different.
She is a swing ticket, in favor of one vote, against the other.
This is--
This is the law of the land.
Jeffrey: you were in court today when all of this was read.
We understand that Chief Justice William Renquist read the decision on the Ten Commandments in the Texas case.
Many people are speculating whether he will announce his retirement.
You were there.
Tell us how he sounds.
How did he show up today?
To be frank, I think he sounds terrible.
I thought he sounded uncomfortable.
Really?
TOOBIN: And, you know, I 've seen him a few times since he came back from the bench on the 3 Th, and frankly, he looks worse than spring, more than I saw before.
He spoke in his voice with a respirator. It's very --
It's hard to understand him.
It is clear that he has a sound mind.
In fact, in the case of Texas, he made a very interesting joke, which is a bit unusual.
There are so many opinions, and there are opinions of approval and opposition.
When he announced it, he said, "Boy, I don't know there are so many people in this court.
Everyone in court laughed.
So his mind is obviously sound.
But he looks like a very disgusting person, and he may or may not come back in the fall, you know. I don't know.
NGUYEN: we will look at it and see if there is any announcement today.
Jeffrey Tobin, legal analyst, thank you.
Now to Kansas.
BTK serial killer suspect Dennis Reid admitted 10 murder charges last hour.
He is speaking now.
This is a photo of the scene.
Let's go to CNN's Jonathan Fried, who's outside the court and talks about what's going on today ---Jonathan.
Jonathan Fried, cnn correspondent: Good morning, Betty.
About an hour ago, Dennis Reid of the County Court in Wichita Sedgwick told the community here, "Yes, I was charged.
I was killed by criminal law.
He pleaded guilty to the 10 first charges.
Murder from 1974 to 1991.
Now, what is happening now, is still in court, and Judge Greg Waller, the district judge, is talking to Mr. Waller.
In the judge's opinion, Mr. Reid tried to satisfy himself.
Reid did commit what he said.
Let's listen to what happened half an hour ago, when he described to the judge what he did in 1974 when he killed Joseph and Julie Otello and their two children. (
Start Video Editing)
Dennis Reid admitted to the BTK murder: I didn't wear a mask.
They can already. D. me.
I decided to keep putting them down, I think, or kill them.
Justice Gregory Waller: Okay.
What did you do to Joseph Otello?
Judge Otello?
Waller Joseph Otello, Mr.
Father Otello.
Reid: I put a plastic bag on his head and tighten it with a rope.
Is this in the bedroom?
Yes, sir.
Waller: Actually, did he suffocate?
Reid: Not right away.
No, sir, he's not.
What happened?
Well, I did it after that. Otero.
I 've never strangled anyone before, so I really don't know how much pressure you put on a person or how long it takes. But. . .
Is she tied up there too?
RADER: Yes.
Yes, their hands and feet are tied up. She was. . . (END VIDEO CLIP)
Fried: It's really nice to hear him, Betty.
Reid gave such a calm and detailed account of the crimes he committed today in those 10 years. year period --30-
Between 1974 and 1991.
Betty, I 've been covering this for about a year and a half.
I am very familiar with all the facts of the case.
So listening to Mr. 'S words has an impact on me personally.
What did he do.
I can only imagine--
It is hard for me to imagine the families of the victims sitting in court now have to listen to him describing what he has done to their loved ones.
This is still going on.
NGUYEN: very real.
You said it very well because I was just listening to the graphic details when I looked at it.
He talked about how he followed the victims.
We will hear again in court so we can hear more
Said Reid.
Waller: I will accept these guilty pleas, and my judgment for you is, Dennis L.
Reid is guilty of murder in the first degree of murder, a felony;
Second count of first-class murder, Class a felony;
First-Class Murder, category a felony;
Count No. 4, first-class murder, category a felony;
First-degree murder on five counts, felony category;
Murder of six counts, felony of Class;
Seven counts of first-class murder, Class a felony;
Count No. 8, first-class murder, category a felony;
First-class murder on count 9, category a felony;
First-degree murder in count 10, Class a felony.
I will book at this time
Sentencing investigation
I will arrange for the sentencing of 1 to 9 counts at 9: 00 on August 17.
NGUYEN: You see, the judge has accepted the guilty plea of all 10 charges by Dennis Reid.
Let's go back to CNN's Jonathan Fried.
This came too fast.
There is a lot of development in the courts today, and many people are not sure what will happen because there is little knowledge of the defense's strategy.
That's right, Betty.
There are a lot of questions about what is going to happen today.
The respondent was expected to ask for an extension sometime in the last month or so, which basically means, your Honour, we are not ready for trial yet, and this is a big case for us to delay.
In the early days, Sir.
Reid appeared in court and the district attorney himself was here to talk to the two men ---
All the cameras and reporters said she didn't expect the case to appear before October.
Today is the scheduled start of the trial. We are here. And Mr.
Hey, plead guilty again to those of us who just joined. -
The people you just joined, pleaded guilty to 10 first charges. degree murder.
On August 17, Judge Greg Waller held a sentencing hearing here.
What will happen from now until August 17, Betty, you may have heard that the judge mentioned
Sentencing investigation
The parole board is also involved.
They dig deep, sir.
The background of the judge provided the judge with information on the depth and breadth of Mr.
BTW, anything that he may have done or has not done before, and everything related to this case, he can make an informed decision on how to deal with sentencing.
Then there will actually be a hearing in the open court on the 17 th, and witnesses can come forward, relatives of the victims, make a statement, such a thing.
Hey: Okay.
CNN reporter Jonathan Fried
We will now invite legal analyst Kendall Coffey to talk more about what we have heard.
Frankly, because there are some graphic details, many people may call it shock.
Kendall, I don't think many people would expect Dennis Reid to hear it in a frank way.
Have you ever heard of anything like that before?
FMR, Kendall CoffeyU. S.
Lawyer: never.
Interview a serial killer
It's chilling.
Of course, he described these terrible things as another day in the office.
NGUYEN: Right.
He described it calmly.
As I said, he has a vivid description of what the victim has done.
Coffey: of course, and--
From the judge's point of view, this is a request (INAUDIBLE).
That means he needs to get specific facts to make sure it's a plea that will never be seriously challenged.
Boy, after everything we heard, I can't imagine anyone questioning the guy getting the most punishment.
NGUYEN: Do you want to be in Dennis Reid's head like this? -
Is this a way to seal his history book as BTK strangler?
I think so.
When you think of all the differences along the way, when he wants to wave and say in some freak way, at the same time, it's really me, if there was ever a case, trying to defend the trial is an ultimately futile act, and that is it.
The evidence is conclusive.
Unlike most of the first cases
He could not face the death penalty for murder.
No matter how many of the 10 convictions, he will spend the rest of his life in prison.
Therefore, this trial does not make any sense to all concerned except for more pain.
I think it did give Dennis Reid 50 to 60 minutes in the spotlight today as he tells chilling details.
NGUYEN: What impact does his testimony today have on his judgment?
Coffey: Well, I think that's absolutely guaranteed that he will get as many sentences as he can, and it will be 10 consecutive life sentences, meaning, by the way Kansas calculates, he will not be eligible for parole in less than 175.
He will never see the light.
I think the process of this detailed review will at least bring an end to the victims and their families.
The verdict itself will give survivors of his murder frenzy an opportunity to convey their feelings to the court.
So, at least once the judgment is finalized, the final chapter is written, which may help some people who have suffered serious pain to continue their lives.
NGUYEN: Legal analyst Kendall Coffey, thank you.
The next step is the inspection of financial markets.
In addition, we will explain to you what is meant by today's Supreme Court ruling on file sharing. (
Business break)
NGUYEN: Today is Monday. Let's take a look at the current situation on Wall Street. Up $1.
At 45, 10299, we know the Nasdaq is down about 5. 5, at 2047.
The Supreme Court judge said today
The shared service should not get a free pass.
They all agreed to the company that sold the files.
For copyright infringement, the shared software can be held responsible.
CNN Tech reporter Daniel Seberg is here to explain what this means for you and your iPod.
Daniel Seberg, CNN Technology Reporter: That's right.
Now, for your iPod, you can still do it if you are using legal services.
NGUYEN: you're fine. All right.
SIEBERG: Yes, because these types of services have emerged over the last few years and have become very popular.
But this case is about these documents.
Share the network.
You may remember something called Napster a while ago.
In this case, we are talking about Grokster and other parts that belong to the streaming network.
The way these work is a little different from Napster in the past.
These things are called docks. to-pier services.
Now, that means, they're basically setting you up so that any files you want to share on your computer ---
Now, they can be illegal or legal. -
They will help you find someone else somewhere on the World Wide Web to share your files.
Over the past few years, the record industry has been chasing users of these networks and suing them.
In this case, the Supreme Court says it is OK to pursue these special services.
These companies, including streaming network companies, believe that their technology allows people to share anything, not just illegal files.
It should therefore be allowed to exist.
MGM, a multimedia company, and other record labels, say they are promoting illegal documents
Share use, so they should be turned off.
In this case, the Supreme Court agreed with them.
NGUYEN: some people still think, though, not to kill the messenger.
If someone does something illegal with it, they will provide the service, that is their responsibility.
But the Supreme Court said no, you can't get off so easily.
So my question is, if you can't do this anymore, if these software companies can't provide this kind of service anymore, will that kill innovative design, business, software? Something like this?
SIEBERG: It's a huge debate from different groups, such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and they worry that such a decision will really take--
Some of these technologies.
They are worried that they will not get so much development because of this type of decision they will feel fear.
Betty mentioned some of the previous decisions.
This case is actually based on what happened to Sony and Betamax in the 1970 s.
In this case, they think there is a lot of non-
Non-infringing use
Copyright infringement.
In this case, however, the court agreed that the technology had a substantial infringing use.
So they are worried about this type of technology, and at least a lot of technicians will do it, and this type of technology may not expand in the future.
However, the record industry, the film industry, said it was a great decision.
Hey: Okay.
Daniel Seberg, thank you for putting it all together for us.
We appreciate this.
Seberg: Okay.
NGUYEN: there's more to be done, including the fact that we're going to introduce you to the behind-the-scenes of the Texas state lawsuit, which the Supreme Court ruled today involves Ten Commandments.
Please continue to pay attention to this.
You're watching CNN live today. (
Business break)
NGUYEN: the plaintiff who sued the Texas Ten Commandments is not your typical lawyer.
You won't find him on the nameplate of a well-known law firm or at some high levelrise office.
According to CNN's Ed lavadela, it's hard for him to find. (Start Video)
Ed Rawanda, CNN correspondent (voice-over)
It takes time and patience to find Thomas Van Alden.
All we know about him is that he has been in the library for a long time. (on camera)
: It's the building where the State Law Library is located, and it's where Thomas Van Alden spends most of his day hanging out.
A few feet away is the Ten Commandments monument, right under the shadow of Austin's state Capitol. (voice-over)
: You'll think that if you want to talk to a lawyer suing Texas and remove a Ten Commandments monument from public, you'll pick up the phone and call him.
But the lawyer did not have a phone call, let alone an assistant. (on camera)
We were told that Thomas Van Oden would normally spend the whole day in the area. (voice-over)
These tables in the State Law Library are his office.
There is no brass nameplate here.
There was only one newspaper cut on the wall with his picture on it. (on camera)
He likes to have lunch here during the day.
So we will keep looking for him. (voice-over)
We ended up at the University of Texas Law School. (on camera)
We think we found Thomas Van Alden at UT Law School.
The problem was that he was in the room at the end of the hallway and he fell asleep.
So we have to wait for him to wake up.
Thomas Van Alden, a homeless lawyer: I don't think I'm creative.
LAVANDERA (voice-over)
Van Alden woke up a few minutes later.
We went out for an interview.
We will soon know that he is not your typical lawyer.
Van Alden: That's a little bit of que sera's attitude. You know?
I think we have all experienced such a life. You know?
Van Oden has been writing legal briefs and documents for the past three years, filing and mailing documents by himself.
It doesn't sound like a big deal except that Thomas Van Alden is homeless.
Van Oden: you're writing every day and it's hard to forget that it's all a joke because you don't have the money to copy when you're done.
You don't have the money to send it (INAUDIBLE).
The one you're wearing is really
Rawanda: he agreed to share his story about how a homeless lawyer lives on food stamps for $150 a month, and without us talking about how he ended up, leading such a controversial Supreme or showing you the tent where he lives
This is not their business.
I mean, there may also be some aspects of their lives that will fascinate me, but I'm not going to ask them.
The subtleties of the upper class also apply to me.
Van Alden called himself a Robert Kennedy liberal and a strict believer in the separation of the Church and the state.
But he's worried that people think he's. religion.
I have not prosecuted the Ten Commandments.
I'm not suing Christianity and Judaism.
I sued the government.
Lavadela: it is said that debating a case in the Supreme Court may be the pinnacle of a lawyer's career.
Van Alden succeeded, but he was not able to enjoy the experience himself.
Another lawyer appeared for him.
Van Oden: I will keep an eye on it in the news media.
Van Oden refused to let friends pay on their way to Washington.
Instead, he will find out what is going on in the legal library starting with his legal Tour.
After the Supreme Court has ruled, he will return to the tent to sleep, wherever it is.
CNN, Ed lavadala, Austin, Texas. (END VIDEOTAPE)
NGUYEN: Shifting gears now, will the Northeast heat wave break soon?
We checked the weather forecast across the country.
It's coming.
In addition, the president presided over-
As the host of German counterparts.
The two leaders disagree on the Iraq war.
If the relationship is getting better now, we will tell you. (
Business break)
NGUYEN: The Supreme Court of news now ruled today that the Ten Commandments cannot be displayed in court.
But in a comparative case, the judges decided that the Ten Commandments displayed at the Texas State Capitol were allowed.
The decisions appear to be tailored to each specific station.
In Kansas, the BTK killer admitted 10 murders today.
Dennis Reid gave up his right to stand trial.
From 1974 to 1991, serial killings occurred in and around Wichita, Kansas.
BTK represents ISIL, torture and killing, the methods used by ISIL for victims.
Gas prices are close to record levels again.
Analysts say,
Serve regular rose 8 cents to an average of $2. 21 a gallon. Another 8-
Rising cents will push gas prices above the record set in April.
Two senior deputies to Saddam Hussein appeared before the Iraqi war crimes court.
Former Prime Minister Aziz q Aziz was questioned last Tuesday.
The person known as Chemical Ali appeared in front of the panel for the second time.
In 1988, he was asked about the use of chemical weapons against Kurds.
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